diff --git a/apps/user_ldap/lib/Group_Proxy.php b/apps/user_ldap/lib/Group_Proxy.php
index 7410aa6a6e9..6dff7ea628c 100644
--- a/apps/user_ldap/lib/Group_Proxy.php
+++ b/apps/user_ldap/lib/Group_Proxy.php
@@ -39,12 +39,11 @@ use OCP\GroupInterface;
 use OCP\IConfig;
 use OCP\IUserManager;
 
+/**
+ * @template-extends Proxy<Group_LDAP>
+ */
 class Group_Proxy extends Proxy implements \OCP\GroupInterface, IGroupLDAP, IGetDisplayNameBackend, INamedBackend, IDeleteGroupBackend, IBatchMethodsBackend, IIsAdminBackend {
-	private $backends = [];
-	private ?Group_LDAP $refBackend = null;
-	private Helper $helper;
 	private GroupPluginManager $groupPluginManager;
-	private bool $isSetUp = false;
 	private IConfig $config;
 	private IUserManager $ncUserManager;
 
@@ -56,28 +55,15 @@ class Group_Proxy extends Proxy implements \OCP\GroupInterface, IGroupLDAP, IGet
 		IConfig $config,
 		IUserManager $ncUserManager,
 	) {
-		parent::__construct($ldap, $accessFactory);
-		$this->helper = $helper;
+		parent::__construct($helper, $ldap, $accessFactory);
 		$this->groupPluginManager = $groupPluginManager;
 		$this->config = $config;
 		$this->ncUserManager = $ncUserManager;
 	}
 
-	protected function setup(): void {
-		if ($this->isSetUp) {
-			return;
-		}
 
-		$serverConfigPrefixes = $this->helper->getServerConfigurationPrefixes(true);
-		foreach ($serverConfigPrefixes as $configPrefix) {
-			$this->backends[$configPrefix] =
-				new Group_LDAP($this->getAccess($configPrefix), $this->groupPluginManager, $this->config, $this->ncUserManager);
-			if (is_null($this->refBackend)) {
-				$this->refBackend = &$this->backends[$configPrefix];
-			}
-		}
-
-		$this->isSetUp = true;
+	protected function newInstance(string $configPrefix): Group_LDAP {
+		return new Group_LDAP($this->getAccess($configPrefix), $this->groupPluginManager, $this->config, $this->ncUserManager);
 	}
 
 	/**
diff --git a/apps/user_ldap/lib/Proxy.php b/apps/user_ldap/lib/Proxy.php
index e2e33f3007b..2c8e7f605fc 100644
--- a/apps/user_ldap/lib/Proxy.php
+++ b/apps/user_ldap/lib/Proxy.php
@@ -37,6 +37,9 @@ use OCA\User_LDAP\Mapping\UserMapping;
 use OCP\ICache;
 use OCP\Server;
 
+/**
+ * @template T
+ */
 abstract class Proxy {
 	/** @var array<string,Access> */
 	private static array $accesses = [];
@@ -45,7 +48,15 @@ abstract class Proxy {
 	private ?ICache $cache = null;
 	private AccessFactory $accessFactory;
 
+	/** @var T[] */
+	protected array $backends = [];
+	/** @var ?T */
+	protected $refBackend = null;
+
+	protected bool $isSetUp = false;
+
 	public function __construct(
+		private Helper $helper,
 		ILDAPWrapper $ldap,
 		AccessFactory $accessFactory
 	) {
@@ -57,6 +68,36 @@ abstract class Proxy {
 		}
 	}
 
+	protected function setup(): void {
+		if ($this->isSetUp) {
+			return;
+		}
+
+		$serverConfigPrefixes = $this->helper->getServerConfigurationPrefixes(true);
+		foreach ($serverConfigPrefixes as $configPrefix) {
+			$this->backends[$configPrefix] = $this->newInstance($configPrefix);
+
+			if (is_null($this->refBackend)) {
+				$this->refBackend = $this->backends[$configPrefix];
+			}
+		}
+
+		$this->isSetUp = true;
+	}
+
+	/**
+	 * @return T
+	 */
+	abstract protected function newInstance(string $configPrefix): object;
+
+	/**
+	 * @return T
+	 */
+	public function getBackend(string $configPrefix): object {
+		$this->setup();
+		return $this->backends[$configPrefix];
+	}
+
 	private function addAccess(string $configPrefix): void {
 		$userMap = Server::get(UserMapping::class);
 		$groupMap = Server::get(GroupMapping::class);
diff --git a/apps/user_ldap/lib/User_Proxy.php b/apps/user_ldap/lib/User_Proxy.php
index 8ad3290cf48..1178b690ddd 100644
--- a/apps/user_ldap/lib/User_Proxy.php
+++ b/apps/user_ldap/lib/User_Proxy.php
@@ -42,13 +42,10 @@ use OCP\User\Backend\IProvideEnabledStateBackend;
 use OCP\UserInterface;
 use Psr\Log\LoggerInterface;
 
+/**
+ * @template-extends Proxy<User_LDAP>
+ */
 class User_Proxy extends Proxy implements IUserBackend, UserInterface, IUserLDAP, ICountUsersBackend, ICountMappedUsersBackend, IProvideEnabledStateBackend {
-	/** @var User_LDAP[] */
-	private array $backends = [];
-	private ?User_LDAP $refBackend = null;
-
-	private bool $isSetUp = false;
-	private Helper $helper;
 	private INotificationManager $notificationManager;
 	private UserPluginManager $userPluginManager;
 	private LoggerInterface $logger;
@@ -63,35 +60,21 @@ class User_Proxy extends Proxy implements IUserBackend, UserInterface, IUserLDAP
 		LoggerInterface $logger,
 		DeletedUsersIndex $deletedUsersIndex,
 	) {
-		parent::__construct($ldap, $accessFactory);
-		$this->helper = $helper;
+		parent::__construct($helper, $ldap, $accessFactory);
 		$this->notificationManager = $notificationManager;
 		$this->userPluginManager = $userPluginManager;
 		$this->logger = $logger;
 		$this->deletedUsersIndex = $deletedUsersIndex;
 	}
 
-	protected function setup(): void {
-		if ($this->isSetUp) {
-			return;
-		}
-
-		$serverConfigPrefixes = $this->helper->getServerConfigurationPrefixes(true);
-		foreach ($serverConfigPrefixes as $configPrefix) {
-			$this->backends[$configPrefix] = new User_LDAP(
-				$this->getAccess($configPrefix),
-				$this->notificationManager,
-				$this->userPluginManager,
-				$this->logger,
-				$this->deletedUsersIndex,
-			);
-
-			if (is_null($this->refBackend)) {
-				$this->refBackend = &$this->backends[$configPrefix];
-			}
-		}
-
-		$this->isSetUp = true;
+	protected function newInstance(string $configPrefix): User_LDAP {
+		return new User_LDAP(
+			$this->getAccess($configPrefix),
+			$this->notificationManager,
+			$this->userPluginManager,
+			$this->logger,
+			$this->deletedUsersIndex,
+		);
 	}
 
 	/**